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Larsbrinkhoff: /* Additional opcodes */ TENEX knows, ELF and Unix do not.
2025-01-19T14:26:38Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Additional opcodes: </span> TENEX knows, ELF and Unix do not.</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: They are octal.  I would think the WAITS code is wrong here.  ITS has RAP as 20 and NXR as 21.  I'll fix the article now. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 10:12, 5 January 2025 (CET)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>: They are octal.  I would think the WAITS code is wrong here.  ITS has RAP as 20 and NXR as 21.  I'll fix the article now. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 10:12, 5 January 2025 (CET)</div></td></tr>
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Larsbrinkhoff: /* ICP is hard, let's go shopping! */ new section
2025-01-09T10:57:28Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">ICP is hard, let's go shopping!: </span> new section</span></p>
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Larsbrinkhoff: /* Additional opcodes */ NXR should be 21.
2025-01-05T09:12:19Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Additional opcodes: </span> NXR should be 21.</span></p>
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Jnc: /* Additional opcodes */ Done; but the questions remain
2025-01-05T08:55:40Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Additional opcodes: </span> Done; but the questions remain</span></p>
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Jnc: /* Additional opcodes */ Several queries about them
2025-01-03T16:45:51Z
<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Additional opcodes: </span> Several queries about them</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Are the numbers in octal or decimal? (NIC #8246 uses decimal.) If you've just cut-and-pasted <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">RAP←←20</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Are the numbers in octal or decimal? (NIC #8246 uses decimal.) If you've just cut-and-pasted <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">PDP-10 source, they're probably in octal there.</ins></div></td></tr>
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2025-01-03T16:39:55Z
<p>PDP-10 source</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>==Additional opcodes==<br />
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Are the numbers in octal or decimal? (NIC #8246 uses decimal.) If you've just cut-and-pasted RAP←←20<br />
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NXR←←20</div>
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