Talk:C programming language - Revision history

Jnc: /* Dialects */ When 'struct's appeared

2025-07-19T13:43:29Z

Dialects: When 'struct's appeared

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	# The description of [[Typesetter C]] seems to me rather close to K&R; what are the differences?		# The description of [[Typesetter C]] seems to me rather close to K&R; what are the differences?
	[[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 07:47, 11 July 2025 (CEST)		[[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 07:47, 11 July 2025 (CEST)

			: According to [https://www.nokia.com/bell-labs/about/dennis-m-ritchie/chist.html ''The Development of the C Language''], 'struct' appeared very shortly after the addition of types - i.e. just after the 'NB' stage (which was where types first appeared, in a primitive form). Indeed, 'struct' and more complex types ('pointer to X', etc) marked the transition from NB to C.
			: Alas, I'm not sure what the differences are between 'Typesetter C' and K&R. I'd have to read through K&R carefully and note differences, which I don't have the time and energy for at the moment, alas! (I'm busy with [[CCC]] article work!) I see from the timeline in the article that 'Typesetter C' was just before K&R (especially considering the writing/publishing delay on the latter), so probably not very much. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:42, 19 July 2025 (CEST)

Larsbrinkhoff: /* Dialects */ Two questions.

2025-07-11T05:47:22Z

Dialects: Two questions.

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	: Look good. If I get a chance, I'll add more. Ritchie did a paper ("The Development of the C Language") which has a lot of the early history; I'll add a link to that. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:36, 19 August 2021 (CEST)		: Look good. If I get a chance, I'll add more. Ritchie did a paper ("The Development of the C Language") which has a lot of the early history; I'll add a link to that. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:36, 19 August 2021 (CEST)
	: Oh, I see, there was already kind of a link to it, buried in the text; but the link was broken. I have fixed it. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 17:11, 19 August 2021 (CEST)		: Oh, I see, there was already kind of a link to it, buried in the text; but the link was broken. I have fixed it. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 17:11, 19 August 2021 (CEST)

			I have more questions about dialects/development:
			# Primeval has no '''struct''', but Typesetter does. When was '''struct''' introduced?
			# The description of [[Typesetter C]] seems to me rather close to K&R; what are the differences?
			[[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 07:47, 11 July 2025 (CEST)

Jnc: /* Dialects */ History paper there, but link broken

2021-08-19T15:11:49Z

Dialects: History paper there, but link broken

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	: Look good. If I get a chance, I'll add more. Ritchie did a paper ("The Development of the C Language") which has a lot of the early history; I'll add a link to that. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:36, 19 August 2021 (CEST)		: Look good. If I get a chance, I'll add more. Ritchie did a paper ("The Development of the C Language") which has a lot of the early history; I'll add a link to that. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:36, 19 August 2021 (CEST)
			: Oh, I see, there was already kind of a link to it, buried in the text; but the link was broken. I have fixed it. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 17:11, 19 August 2021 (CEST)

Jnc: /* Dialects */ Look good; useful paper

2021-08-19T14:37:09Z

Dialects: Look good; useful paper

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	The page currently says "the original was K&R C". That's not true, as there were language revisions before the K&R book published in 1978. And the page even links to [[Typesetter C]]. I suggest making a more detailed list of C dialects, to the extent some milestones can be found in a continuum. I'll make a stab at it. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 08:44, 19 August 2021 (CEST)		The page currently says "the original was K&R C". That's not true, as there were language revisions before the K&R book published in 1978. And the page even links to [[Typesetter C]]. I suggest making a more detailed list of C dialects, to the extent some milestones can be found in a continuum. I'll make a stab at it. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 08:44, 19 August 2021 (CEST)

			: Look good. If I get a chance, I'll add more. Ritchie did a paper ("The Development of the C Language") which has a lot of the early history; I'll add a link to that. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:36, 19 August 2021 (CEST)

Larsbrinkhoff: /* Dialects */ Signed, Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde.

2021-08-19T06:44:41Z

Dialects: Signed, Tilde Tilde Tilde Tilde.

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	==Dialects==		==Dialects==

	The page currently says "the original was K&R C". That's not true, as there were language revisions before the K&R book published in 1978. And the page even links to [[Typesetter C]]. I suggest making a more detailed list of C dialects. I'll make a stab at it.		The page currently says "the original was K&R C". That's not true, as there were language revisions before the K&R book published in 1978. And the page even links to [[Typesetter C]]. I suggest making a more detailed list of C dialects, to the extent some milestones can be found in a continuum. I'll make a stab at it. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 08:44, 19 August 2021 (CEST)

Larsbrinkhoff: K&R was not the original C.

2021-08-19T06:02:28Z

K&R was not the original C.

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	:: I decided the ()'s are tacky, and moved it to [[C programming language]]. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:47, 16 March 2018 (CET)		:: I decided the ()'s are tacky, and moved it to [[C programming language]]. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:47, 16 March 2018 (CET)

			==Dialects==

			The page currently says "the original was K&R C". That's not true, as there were language revisions before the K&R book published in 1978. And the page even links to [[Typesetter C]]. I suggest making a more detailed list of C dialects. I'll make a stab at it.

Jnc: Another move

2018-03-16T14:47:23Z

Another move

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	:: OK, done (I'll fix all the pages that link here). [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:54, 7 August 2017 (CEST)		:: OK, done (I'll fix all the pages that link here). [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:54, 7 August 2017 (CEST)

			:: I decided the ()'s are tacky, and moved it to [[C programming language]]. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:47, 16 March 2018 (CET)

Jnc: Jnc moved page Talk:C (language) to Talk:C programming language: ()'s are tacky

2018-03-16T14:45:32Z

Jnc moved page Talk:C (language) to Talk:C programming language: ()'s are tacky

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Jnc: /* Page name */ OK, done

2017-08-07T13:54:17Z

Page name: OK, done

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	Should we move this to [[C (language)]], just to make it a bit more explicit? If we leave a redirect at [[C]], we can look for articles which link to it, and fix them to come directly here. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 14:59, 7 August 2017 (CEST)		Should we move this to [[C (language)]], just to make it a bit more explicit? If we leave a redirect at [[C]], we can look for articles which link to it, and fix them to come directly here. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 14:59, 7 August 2017 (CEST)

	:I'm all for it. [[User:Tor\|Tor]] ([[User talk:Tor\|talk]]) 15:30, 7 August 2017 (CEST)		:I'm all for it. [[User:Tor\|Tor]] ([[User talk:Tor\|talk]]) 15:30, 7 August 2017 (CEST)

			:: OK, done (I'll fix all the pages that link here). [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:54, 7 August 2017 (CEST)

Jnc: Jnc moved page Talk:C to Talk:C (language)

2017-08-07T13:52:07Z

Jnc moved page Talk:C to Talk:C (language)

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	Should we move this to [[C (language)]], just to make it a bit more explicit? If we leave a redirect at [[C]], we can look for articles which link to it, and fix them to come directly here. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 14:59, 7 August 2017 (CEST)		Should we move this to [[C (language)]], just to make it a bit more explicit? If we leave a redirect at [[C]], we can look for articles which link to it, and fix them to come directly here. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 14:59, 7 August 2017 (CEST)

	:I'm all for it. [[User:Tor\|Tor]] ([[User talk:Tor\|talk]]) 15:30, 7 August 2017 (CEST)		:I'm all for it. [[User:Tor\|Tor]] ([[User talk:Tor\|talk]]) 15:30, 7 August 2017 (CEST)

			:: OK, done (I'll fix all the pages that link here). [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:54, 7 August 2017 (CEST)