Talk:Computer Interconnect - Revision history

Jnc: /* DEC formal names */ order

2022-06-08T14:27:03Z

DEC formal names: order

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	== DEC formal names ==		== DEC formal names ==

	I prefer to '''always''' use ~~exactly~~ as the page title DEC's full, formal name for things, as given in DEC's contemporaneous documentation (the 'gold standard' for historians in all fields; and with good reason) - in the thing's own manual, if that is available.		I prefer to '''always''' use as the page title exactly DEC's full, formal name for things, as given in DEC's contemporaneous documentation (the 'gold standard' for historians in all fields; and with good reason) - in the thing's own manual, if that is available.

	E.g. the SC008 - the [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/dsa/ci/EK-SC008-UG-002_StarCoupler.pdf SC008 Star Coupler User’s Guide] (EK-SC008-UG-002) calls it "SCOO8 Star Coupler" - both on the title page, and in the text (e.g. Section 1.2, pg. 1-2). So [[SC008 CI Star Coupler]] is not correct.		E.g. the SC008 - the [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/dsa/ci/EK-SC008-UG-002_StarCoupler.pdf SC008 Star Coupler User’s Guide] (EK-SC008-UG-002) calls it "SCOO8 Star Coupler" - both on the title page, and in the text (e.g. Section 1.2, pg. 1-2). So [[SC008 CI Star Coupler]] is not correct.

	I always try to copy the original '''exactly''' - capitalization and all. (Which occasionally causes some problems, when DEC usage changed over time. E.g. the official trademark is 'UNIBUS', but a lot of even early documentation uses 'Unibus' - the 'pdp11 handbook', 1970, uses 'Unibus', as does - most amusingly - the 'UNIBUS interface manual', in the text! :-). This pattern persisted forever in actual DEC manuals: [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-UI750-TD-001_VAX-11_750_Unibus_Interface_Technical_Description_198008.pdf EK-UI750-TD-001] uses 'UNIBUS', but [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-KA750-TD-002_VAX_750_CPU_Technical_Description_198103.pdf EK-KA750-TD-002] uses 'Unibus' - e.g. pg. 1-38. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:18, 8 June 2022 (CEST)		I always try to copy the original '''exactly''' - capitalization and all. (Which occasionally causes some problems, when DEC usage changed over time. E.g. the official trademark is 'UNIBUS', but a lot of even early documentation uses 'Unibus' - the 'pdp11 handbook', 1970, uses 'Unibus', as does - most amusingly - the 'UNIBUS interface manual', in the text! :-). This pattern persisted forever in actual DEC manuals: [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-UI750-TD-001_VAX-11_750_Unibus_Interface_Technical_Description_198008.pdf EK-UI750-TD-001] uses 'UNIBUS', but [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-KA750-TD-002_VAX_750_CPU_Technical_Description_198103.pdf EK-KA750-TD-002] uses 'Unibus' - e.g. pg. 1-38. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:18, 8 June 2022 (CEST)

Jnc: /* DEC formal names */ for page titles

2022-06-08T14:25:53Z

DEC formal names: for page titles

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	== DEC formal names ==		== DEC formal names ==

	I prefer to '''always''' use exactly DEC's full, formal name for things, as given in DEC's contemporaneous documentation (the 'gold standard' for historians in all fields; and with good reason) - in the thing's own manual, if that is available.		I prefer to '''always''' use exactly as the page title DEC's full, formal name for things, as given in DEC's contemporaneous documentation (the 'gold standard' for historians in all fields; and with good reason) - in the thing's own manual, if that is available.

	E.g. the SC008 - the [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/dsa/ci/EK-SC008-UG-002_StarCoupler.pdf SC008 Star Coupler User’s Guide] (EK-SC008-UG-002) calls it "SCOO8 Star Coupler" - both on the title page, and in the text (e.g. Section 1.2, pg. 1-2). So [[SC008 CI Star Coupler]] is not correct.		E.g. the SC008 - the [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/dsa/ci/EK-SC008-UG-002_StarCoupler.pdf SC008 Star Coupler User’s Guide] (EK-SC008-UG-002) calls it "SCOO8 Star Coupler" - both on the title page, and in the text (e.g. Section 1.2, pg. 1-2). So [[SC008 CI Star Coupler]] is not correct.

	I always try to copy the original '''exactly''' - capitalization and all. (Which occasionally causes some problems, when DEC usage changed over time. E.g. the official trademark is 'UNIBUS', but a lot of even early documentation uses 'Unibus' - the 'pdp11 handbook', 1970, uses 'Unibus', as does - most amusingly - the 'UNIBUS interface manual', in the text! :-). This pattern persisted forever in actual DEC manuals: [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-UI750-TD-001_VAX-11_750_Unibus_Interface_Technical_Description_198008.pdf EK-UI750-TD-001] uses 'UNIBUS', but [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-KA750-TD-002_VAX_750_CPU_Technical_Description_198103.pdf EK-KA750-TD-002] uses 'Unibus' - e.g. pg. 1-38. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:18, 8 June 2022 (CEST)		I always try to copy the original '''exactly''' - capitalization and all. (Which occasionally causes some problems, when DEC usage changed over time. E.g. the official trademark is 'UNIBUS', but a lot of even early documentation uses 'Unibus' - the 'pdp11 handbook', 1970, uses 'Unibus', as does - most amusingly - the 'UNIBUS interface manual', in the text! :-). This pattern persisted forever in actual DEC manuals: [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-UI750-TD-001_VAX-11_750_Unibus_Interface_Technical_Description_198008.pdf EK-UI750-TD-001] uses 'UNIBUS', but [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-KA750-TD-002_VAX_750_CPU_Technical_Description_198103.pdf EK-KA750-TD-002] uses 'Unibus' - e.g. pg. 1-38. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:18, 8 June 2022 (CEST)

Jnc: /* DEC formal names */ new section

2022-06-08T14:18:46Z

DEC formal names: new section

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	: I do not have any particular preference about which form to use; feel free to use 'CI' everywhere - but make sure to say <nowiki>[[Computer Interconnect\|CI]]</nowiki> everywhere, so that if we ever need to make [[CI]] a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation disambiguation page], we will not need to go to every page which uses <nowiki>[[CI]]</nowiki> and change it to link directly to [[Computer Interconnect]]. (Which is, by the way, the reason that I always tend to use the full, formal, name of things for their page name - there will be less chance of a future clash that way. Although that occasionally fails - as with [[Network Control Program]] - so far there have not been many cases where we had to run around and change a lot of pages when we renamed a page - as I had to for the NCP change.) If you'd like to update all pages that link to [[Computer Interconnect]] to use 'CI', the [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Computer_Interconnect\|'What links here']] link on the left edge will quickly/easily show them all. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 13:06, 8 June 2022 (CEST)		: I do not have any particular preference about which form to use; feel free to use 'CI' everywhere - but make sure to say <nowiki>[[Computer Interconnect\|CI]]</nowiki> everywhere, so that if we ever need to make [[CI]] a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation disambiguation page], we will not need to go to every page which uses <nowiki>[[CI]]</nowiki> and change it to link directly to [[Computer Interconnect]]. (Which is, by the way, the reason that I always tend to use the full, formal, name of things for their page name - there will be less chance of a future clash that way. Although that occasionally fails - as with [[Network Control Program]] - so far there have not been many cases where we had to run around and change a lot of pages when we renamed a page - as I had to for the NCP change.) If you'd like to update all pages that link to [[Computer Interconnect]] to use 'CI', the [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Computer_Interconnect\|'What links here']] link on the left edge will quickly/easily show them all. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 13:06, 8 June 2022 (CEST)

			== DEC formal names ==

			I prefer to '''always''' use exactly DEC's full, formal name for things, as given in DEC's contemporaneous documentation (the 'gold standard' for historians in all fields; and with good reason) - in the thing's own manual, if that is available.

			E.g. the SC008 - the [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/dsa/ci/EK-SC008-UG-002_StarCoupler.pdf SC008 Star Coupler User’s Guide] (EK-SC008-UG-002) calls it "SCOO8 Star Coupler" - both on the title page, and in the text (e.g. Section 1.2, pg. 1-2). So [[SC008 CI Star Coupler]] is not correct.

			I always try to copy the original '''exactly''' - capitalization and all. (Which occasionally causes some problems, when DEC usage changed over time. E.g. the official trademark is 'UNIBUS', but a lot of even early documentation uses 'Unibus' - the 'pdp11 handbook', 1970, uses 'Unibus', as does - most amusingly - the 'UNIBUS interface manual', in the text! :-). This pattern persisted forever in actual DEC manuals: [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-UI750-TD-001_VAX-11_750_Unibus_Interface_Technical_Description_198008.pdf EK-UI750-TD-001] uses 'UNIBUS', but [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/750/EK-KA750-TD-002_VAX_750_CPU_Technical_Description_198103.pdf EK-KA750-TD-002] uses 'Unibus' - e.g. pg. 1-38. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:18, 8 June 2022 (CEST)

Jnc: Fine with me, as long as we don't _link to_ CI

2022-06-08T11:06:41Z

Fine with me, as long as we don't _link to_ CI

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			==Use acronym or full name?==

	I'd prefer using 'CI' over 'Computer Interconnect' in the article (except for the heading and the first sentence). 'CI' is much more 'DEC speak' than 'Computer Interconnect', and the latter might possibly been mistaken for some unspecific conception instead of a DEC specific one.		I'd prefer using 'CI' over 'Computer Interconnect' in the article (except for the heading and the first sentence). 'CI' is much more 'DEC speak' than 'Computer Interconnect', and the latter might possibly been mistaken for some unspecific conception instead of a DEC specific one.

	What do you think? [[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]]) 11:53, 8 June 2022 (CEST)		What do you think? [[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]]) 11:53, 8 June 2022 (CEST)

			: I do not have any particular preference about which form to use; feel free to use 'CI' everywhere - but make sure to say <nowiki>[[Computer Interconnect\|CI]]</nowiki> everywhere, so that if we ever need to make [[CI]] a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation disambiguation page], we will not need to go to every page which uses <nowiki>[[CI]]</nowiki> and change it to link directly to [[Computer Interconnect]]. (Which is, by the way, the reason that I always tend to use the full, formal, name of things for their page name - there will be less chance of a future clash that way. Although that occasionally fails - as with [[Network Control Program]] - so far there have not been many cases where we had to run around and change a lot of pages when we renamed a page - as I had to for the NCP change.) If you'd like to update all pages that link to [[Computer Interconnect]] to use 'CI', the [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Computer_Interconnect\|'What links here']] link on the left edge will quickly/easily show them all. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 13:06, 8 June 2022 (CEST)

Vaxorcist: 'CI' instead of 'Computer Interconnect' (mostly)?

2022-06-08T09:53:37Z

'CI' instead of 'Computer Interconnect' (mostly)?

New page

I'd prefer using 'CI' over 'Computer Interconnect' in the article (except for the heading and the first sentence). 'CI' is much more 'DEC speak' than 'Computer Interconnect', and the latter might possibly been mistaken for some unspecific conception instead of a DEC specific one.

What do you think? [[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) 11:53, 8 June 2022 (CEST)