Talk:Installing VMS V2.0 on SIMH - Revision history

Jnc: Great news!

2022-07-18T05:05:19Z

Great news!

Larsbrinkhoff at 04:53, 18 July 2022

2022-07-18T04:53:40Z

Larsbrinkhoff: /* Tapes? */ VMS 2.0 tape should be ok.

2022-07-18T04:50:32Z

‎Tapes?: VMS 2.0 tape should be ok.

Vaxorcist: /* Tapes? */

2022-07-17T16:30:01Z

‎Tapes?

Larsbrinkhoff: Tapes available?

2022-07-17T15:45:09Z

Tapes available?

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===Tapes?===

Is installation media available? I don't see any on Bitsavers. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 17:45, 17 July 2022 (CEST)

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 Is installation media available?  I don't see any on Bitsavers. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 17:45, 17 July 2022 (CEST)
-Yes, there is an installation image available, but:
+: Yes, there is an installation image available, but:
-Some system files are in a false record format (too new and/or wrong type) for VMS V2.0:
+:* it is a "reconstruction"
   %COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening _DBA0:[SYSEXE]SYS.STB;4 as input
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   -RMS-F-RFM, invalid record format
-This seems to be the reason that VMS V2 installations on RK07 and RL02 throw a lot of errors.
+: This seems to be the reason that VMS V2 installations on RK07 and RL02 throw a lot of errors.
-So better use one of the three installed disks contained in VMS020.zip:
+:* VMS020.rm3
-* VMS020.rm3
+:* VMS020.rm5
-* VMS020.rm5
+:* VMS020.RP6
-I once knew a guy who had a "genuine" VMS V2.0 installation tape in store, but he was very busy and unfortunately died before he could dig it out.
+:I once knew a guy who had a "genuine" VMS V2.0 installation tape in store, but he was very busy and unfortunately died before he could dig it out. If I remember his name (I probably will sometime ...) I'll tell you. I don't know what his heirs did with his DEC collection, though.
-Another possible source could be Alan Frisbie (hopefully still alive), who said at [https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/Tywrs9RPutU?pli=1] "According to my notes, I have a copy of BB-D782C-BE VMS V2.0 BIN tape."
+: Another possible source could be Alan Frisbie (hopefully still alive), who said at [https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/Tywrs9RPutU?pli=1] "According to my notes, I have a copy of BB-D782C-BE VMS V2.0 BIN tape."
-Maybe you want to try to contact him. If you succeed, please let me know.
+: Maybe you want to try to contact him. If you succeed, please let me know.
-If you want my VMS V2.0 tape image nevertheless, let me know where to load it up to.
+: If you want my VMS V2.0 tape image nevertheless, let me know where to load it up to.
-By the way - I've got images of all VMS V3.x version installation media except for genuine Standalone Backup Kits (which can be generated easily).
+: By the way - I've got images of all VMS V3.x version installation media except for genuine Standalone Backup Kits (which can be generated easily). [[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) 18:30, 17 July 2022 (CEST)
-[[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) 18:30, 17 July 2022 (CEST)
+:: Thanks for the information!  I do feel a little worried when I see a link to something like Google drive.  Maybe get a copy to Bitsavers bits/DEC/vax/VMS 2.x?
-[[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) 18:30, 17 July 2022 (CEST)
+:: I checked with Alan.  He says he's pretty sure he still has the tape, but it's stashed away in a box that he can't get to for a while. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 06:50, 18 July 2022 (CEST)
-: Thanks for the information!  I do feel a little worried when I see a link to something like Google drive.  Maybe get a copy to Bitsavers bits/DEC/vax/VMS 2.x?
+::: Great news! [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 07:04, 18 July 2022 (CEST)

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−	: Thanks for the information! I checked with Alan. He says he's pretty sure he still has the tape, but it's stashed away in a box that he can't get to for a while. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 06:50, 18 July 2022 (CEST)	+	: Thanks for the information! I do feel a little worried when I see a link to something like Google drive. Maybe get a copy to Bitsavers bits/DEC/vax/VMS 2.x?
		+	: I checked with Alan. He says he's pretty sure he still has the tape, but it's stashed away in a box that he can't get to for a while. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 06:50, 18 July 2022 (CEST)

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		+	: Thanks for the information! I checked with Alan. He says he's pretty sure he still has the tape, but it's stashed away in a box that he can't get to for a while. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 06:50, 18 July 2022 (CEST)

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	Is installation media available? I don't see any on Bitsavers. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 17:45, 17 July 2022 (CEST)		Is installation media available? I don't see any on Bitsavers. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff\|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff\|talk]]) 17:45, 17 July 2022 (CEST)
		+
		+	Yes, there is an installation image available, but:
		+	* it is a "reconstruction"
		+	* it still has some bugs/problems, e.g.:
		+
		+	Some system files are in a false record format (too new and/or wrong type) for VMS V2.0:
		+
		+	%COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening _DBA0:[SYSEXE]SYS.STB;4 as input
		+	-RMS-F-RFM, invalid record format
		+	%COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening _DBA0:[SYSLIB]ODT.OBJ;1 as input
		+	-RMS-F-RFM, invalid record format
		+	%COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening _DBA0:[SYSEXE]SYSDEF.STB;1 as input
		+	-RMS-F-RFM, invalid record format
		+	%COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening _DBA0:[SYSEXE]RMSDEF.STB;1 as input
		+	-RMS-F-RFM, invalid record format
		+	%COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening _DBA0:[SYSEXE]IMGDEF.STB;1 as input
		+	-RMS-F-RFM, invalid record format
		+	%COPY-E-OPENIN, error opening _DBA0:[SYSEXE]DCLDEF.STB;1 as input
		+	-RMS-F-RFM, invalid record format
		+
		+	This seems to be the reason that VMS V2 installations on RK07 and RL02 throw a lot of errors.
		+
		+	So better use one of the three installed disks contained in VMS020.zip:
		+	* VMS020.rm3
		+	* VMS020.rm5
		+	* VMS020.RP6
		+
		+	I once knew a guy who had a "genuine" VMS V2.0 installation tape in store, but he was very busy and unfortunately died before he could dig it out.
		+	If I remember his name (I probably will sometime ...) I'll tell you. I don't know what his heirs did with his DEC collection, though.
		+
		+	Another possible source could be Alan Frisbie (hopefully still alive), who said at [https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/Tywrs9RPutU?pli=1] "According to my notes, I have a copy of BB-D782C-BE VMS V2.0 BIN tape."
		+
		+	Maybe you want to try to contact him. If you succeed, please let me know.
		+
		+	If you want my VMS V2.0 tape image nevertheless, let me know where to load it up to.
		+
		+	By the way - I've got images of all VMS V3.x version installation media except for genuine Standalone Backup Kits (which can be generated easily).
		+
		+	[[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]]) 18:30, 17 July 2022 (CEST)
		+	[[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]]) 18:30, 17 July 2022 (CEST)