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Note to others about the Christie's sale pages

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==Christie's sale(s)==

So, the LCM collection was sold by Christie's in two sales, [https://www.christies.com/en/auction/pushing-boundaries-ingenuity-from-the-paul-g-allen-collection-30730/browse-lots one in person], apparently of what were thought to be the most significant/valuable items (it's not clear which; some items in this one went for a lot less than the most expensive ones in the second), and [https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/firsts-history-computing-paul-g-allen-collection/lots/3726 one online].

I have gone through both, and added a link to the computer-related items to the appropriate article (and, in a few cases - [[KENBAK-1‎]], [[MICRAL N‎]], [[IMSAI 8080‎]], [[Sol-20‎]] - created them - some as stubs).

The real reason for this note is to point out that each item has some good photos; in some cases (e.g. the [[KI10]]), ''lots'' of photos. Therein lie several rubs. First, I expect the images are copyrighted; i.e. we can't just upload them here (which is what we'd have to do, to be able to have them ''display'' in articles, I am fairly sure). So, our only option is to add links to each item, and add a note (as I have done) on each item, that there are images on the item's sale page. It ''would'' be possible to add links to individual images (e.g. this truly wonderful [https://www.christies.com/img/LotImages/2024/NYR/2024_NYR_23618_0111_012.jpg PDP-5 one]), but that would be a ''lot'' of work.

And the problem ''there'' is that i) Christie's is unlikely to keep the pages around forever, and ii) the Internet Archive is archiving the item sale pages, but ''not'' the images! So, I have gone through and saved copies of ''all'' the images on the items I have linked to; that way, if Christie's takes the pages down, the images aren't gone forever. (Someone ''else'' can deal with them, to get permission to use them!)

If anyone does want to add image links, just go to the item's page, and do a 'view HTML source' operation. The URL for the first image is pretty easy to find. Cut-and-paste it across; one can trim everything inside the '()'s. It will end with '_000.jpg'; to get to the other images, just edit it to read '001', etc. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 19:13, 29 April 2025 (CEST)

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	If anyone does want to add image links, just go to the item's page, and do a 'view HTML source' operation. The URL for the first image is pretty easy to find. Cut-and-paste it across; one can trim everything inside the '()'s. It will end with '_000.jpg'; to get to the other images, just edit it to read '001', etc. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 19:13, 29 April 2025 (CEST)		If anyone does want to add image links, just go to the item's page, and do a 'view HTML source' operation. The URL for the first image is pretty easy to find. Cut-and-paste it across; one can trim everything inside the '()'s. It will end with '_000.jpg'; to get to the other images, just edit it to read '001', etc. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 19:13, 29 April 2025 (CEST)
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		+	== Christie's items ==
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		+	These are the things to which I added links to items at the Christie's sale:
		+
		+	* [[Bendix G-15‎]]
		+	* [[LGP-30‎]]
		+	* [[PDP-5‎]]
		+	* [[PDP-7‎]]
		+	* [[PDP-8]]
		+	* [[LINC-8‎]]
		+	* [[KA10‎]]
		+	* [[KI10‎]]
		+	* [[KS10‎]]
		+	* [[SC-40‎]]
		+	* [[IBM 650‎]]
		+	* [[IBM 7090]]
		+	* [[IBM System/360‎]]
		+	* [[Control Data Corporation]]
		+	* [[CDC 6400]]
		+	* [[CDC 6600]]
		+	* [[Seymour Cray‎]] (we don't have pages for the Cray-1 or Cray-2, so I stashed them there)
		+	* [[Hewlett-Packard‎]] (HP 2100S, 1000 A-series microcomputer)
		+	* [[KENBAK-1‎]]
		+	* [[Xerox]] (Xerox Sigma 9)
		+	* [[Xerox Alto‎]]
		+	* [[Xerox Star‎]]
		+	* [[‎CADR‎]]
		+	* [[MICRAL N‎]]
		+	* [[Altair 8800]]
		+	* [[IMSAI 8080‎]]
		+	* [[Sol-20‎]]
		+	* [[Apple I‎]]
		+	* [[Apple Lisa‎]]
		+	* [[NeXT Computer, Inc‎]]
		+	* [[Compaq‎]] (COMPAQ PORTABLE 286)
		+	* [[Teletype‎]]
		+	* [[Mouse‎]]
		+	* [[Delay line‎]]
		+
		+	in case anyone wants to do anything about images (above). [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 16:49, 30 April 2025 (CEST)

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 The real reason for this note is to point out that each item has some good photos; in some cases (e.g. the [[KI10]]), ''lots'' of photos. Therein lie several rubs. First, I expect the images are copyrighted; i.e. we can't just upload them here (which is what we'd have to do, to be able to have them ''display'' in articles, I am fairly sure). So, our only option is to add links to each item, and add a note (as I have done) on each item, that there are images on the item's sale page. It ''would'' be possible to add links to individual images (e.g. this truly wonderful [https://www.christies.com/img/LotImages/2024/NYR/2024_NYR_23618_0111_012.jpg PDP-5 one]), but that would be a ''lot'' of work.
-And the problem ''there'' is that i) Christie's is unlikely to keep the pages around forever, and ii) the Internet Archive is archiving the item sale pages, but ''not'' the images! So, I have gone through and saved copies of ''all'' the images on the items I have linked to; that way, if Christie's takes the pages down, the images aren't gone forever. (Someone ''else'' can deal with them, to get permission to use them!)
+And the problem ''there'' is that i) Christie's is unlikely to keep the pages around forever, and ii) the Internet Archive is archiving the item sale pages, but ''not'' the images! So, I have gone through and saved copies of ''all'' the images on the items I have linked to; that way, if Christie's takes the pages down, the images aren't gone forever. (Someone ''else'' can deal with Christie's, to get permission to use them!)
 If anyone does want to add image links, just go to the item's page, and do a 'view HTML source' operation. The URL for the first image is pretty easy to find. Cut-and-paste it across; one can trim everything inside the '()'s. It will end with '_000.jpg'; to get to the other images, just edit it to read '001', etc. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 19:13, 29 April 2025 (CEST)