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		<title>ForOldHack: /* VMMs in DOS history, and memory... */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;VMMs in DOS history, and memory...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Hmm..&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Windows 386 v2.0..x itself was still a 16-bit real mode program, even running on the 386 VMM.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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VMM is virtual machine mode, which allowed a computer running Windows, to run multiple 8086 real mode&lt;br /&gt;
applications simultaneously. so.... Windows v2 running in 16-bit real mode could run multiple&lt;br /&gt;
VMMs, but could not run itself. ( It actually would complain that it could not run itself... )&lt;br /&gt;
Quardecks DeskView could run AutoCAD in one window, and Windows another window, and could run two copies of AutoCAD, but not two copies of Windows v2.&lt;br /&gt;
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8086 real mode is limited to &amp;gt;1Mb of memory, using segmented ( unprotected memory ) memory addresses,&lt;br /&gt;
or up to 15Mb more of data memory using the LIM 4.2 spec memory boards and appropriate software.&lt;br /&gt;
Command.com could run in multiple windows, but could easily crash the Windows program.&lt;br /&gt;
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80286 real mode is limited to &amp;gt;16Mb of memory, using 16-bit unsegmented addresses, however requiring a processor reset to move between&lt;br /&gt;
16-bit mode and 8086 real mode.&lt;br /&gt;
Command.com could run in multiple windows, but it was not command.com that could crash the program, the program ( Windows 2.0 ) could easily crash itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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80386 real mode again limited to &amp;gt;16MB of memory, could use 32-bit addresses, did not need to reset the processor to move from&lt;br /&gt;
16-bit mode to 8086 segmented mode, and included a VMM, Virtual Machine Mode capable of running 8086 processors in a protected memory space.&lt;br /&gt;
Command.com could run in multiple windows, but with the 3.1 update, could only crash its own task, and not effect other programs.&lt;br /&gt;
( Windows 3.x had a generous helping of GPFs ( General Program Faults ) from poor drivers, which need constant attention.. )&lt;br /&gt;
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But out of all of this, Windows 2.0 should have been able to run a copy of itself under VMM, ( unsegmented memory hypervisor, running a segmented memory application ), but the program itself would not allow it to operate in this fashion.&lt;br /&gt;
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How could you easily describe this in a picture? A multi-deminensional view with details? [[User:ForOldHack|ForOldHack]] ([[User talk:ForOldHack|talk]]) 09:08, 11 April 2019 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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