https://gunkies.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ANSWIT 2026-09-07T11:03:16Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.43.9 https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:NSWIT&diff=35923&oldid=prev 2025-02-10T15:51:46Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Newman: </span> Yes, that was my guess</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:51, 10 February 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l11">Line 11:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 11:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It seems to be a multiprocessor shared memory.  Each processor can map in one or two windows into this memory, and also send interrupts to other processors. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 09:57, 10 February 2025 (CET)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It seems to be a multiprocessor shared memory.  Each processor can map in one or two windows into this memory, and also send interrupts to other processors. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 09:57, 10 February 2025 (CET)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">: Yes, that was roughly my guess ([[Talk:Network Control Program (ARPANET)#What is an NCP implementation?|here]]) - "maybe a shared memory between several machines". The details are interesting - if you work them out, maybe do a page on it? [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 16:51, 10 February 2025 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key mediawiki-wiki_:diff:1.41:old-35922:rev-35923:php=table --> </table>

Jnc https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:NSWIT&diff=35922&oldid=prev 2025-02-10T08:58:03Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Newman: </span> It&#039;s a multiprocessor shared memory.</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 08:58, 10 February 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Reading the NMCVR file, I get the impression the Newman device might be a Chaos network interface, perhaps with DMA.  No wait, reading NMDFS I see it can talk several PDP-11 machines.  So some kind of message passing?  The device is also called the &quot;NM-crock&quot;, and referred to as a &quot;memory system&quot;. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 08:24, 10 February 2025 (CET)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Reading the NMCVR file, I get the impression the Newman device might be a Chaos network interface, perhaps with DMA.  No wait, reading NMDFS I see it can talk several PDP-11 machines.  So some kind of message passing?  The device is also called the &quot;NM-crock&quot;, and referred to as a &quot;memory system&quot;. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 08:24, 10 February 2025 (CET)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It seems to be a multiprocessor shared memory.  Each processor can map in one or two windows into this memory, and also send interrupts to other processors. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 09:57, 10 February 2025 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key mediawiki-wiki_:diff:1.41:old-35921:rev-35922:php=table --> </table>

Larsbrinkhoff https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:NSWIT&diff=35921&oldid=prev 2025-02-10T07:24:45Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Newman: </span> new section</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 07:24, 10 February 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/ncp.pal%5bncp%2Ccbf%5d490 Host/Host protocol]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/ncp.pal%5bncp%2Ccbf%5d490 Host/Host protocol]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/tn.pal%5bncp%2Ccbf%5d490 TELNET] - server code commented out however</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/tn.pal%5bncp%2Ccbf%5d490 TELNET] - server code commented out however</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Newman ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Reading the NMCVR file, I get the impression the Newman device might be a Chaos network interface, perhaps with DMA.  No wait, reading NMDFS I see it can talk several PDP-11 machines.  So some kind of message passing?  The device is also called the "NM-crock", and referred to as a "memory system". [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 08:24, 10 February 2025 (CET)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key mediawiki-wiki_:diff:1.41:old-35891:rev-35921:php=table --> </table>

Larsbrinkhoff https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:NSWIT&diff=35891&oldid=prev 2025-02-04T13:14:22Z

<p><span class="autocomment">NCP code: </span> Files moved.</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:14, 4 February 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In case someone wants to check:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In case someone wants to check:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/cbf.ncp</del>/imp.pal<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/491 </del>IMP interface]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/imp.pal<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">%5bncp%2Ccbf%5d491 </ins>IMP interface]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/cbf.ncp</del>/ncp.pal<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/490 </del>Host/Host protocol]</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/ncp.pal<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">%5bncp%2Ccbf%5d490 </ins>Host/Host protocol]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/cbf.ncp</del>/tn.pal<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/490 </del>TELNET] - server code commented out however</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/tn.pal<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">%5bncp%2Ccbf%5d490 </ins>TELNET] - server code commented out however</div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key mediawiki-wiki_:diff:1.41:old-35888:rev-35891:php=table --> </table>

Larsbrinkhoff https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:NSWIT&diff=35888&oldid=prev 2025-02-04T06:21:31Z

<p><span class="autocomment">NCP code: </span> Server commented out.</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:21, 4 February 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l4">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/imp.pal/491 IMP interface]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/imp.pal/491 IMP interface]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/ncp.pal/490 Host/Host protocol]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/ncp.pal/490 Host/Host protocol]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/tn.pal/490 TELNET server<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/tn.pal/490 TELNET<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">] - </ins>server <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">code commented out however</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key mediawiki-wiki_:diff:1.41:old-35887:rev-35888:php=table --> </table>

Larsbrinkhoff https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:NSWIT&diff=35887&oldid=prev 2025-02-04T06:16:54Z

<p>Links to NCP code.</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>==NCP code==<br /> <br /> In case someone wants to check:<br /> * [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/imp.pal/491 IMP interface]<br /> * [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/ncp.pal/490 Host/Host protocol]<br /> * [https://github.com/pdp11/nswit/blob/master/sail/cbf.ncp/tn.pal/490 TELNET server]</div>

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