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		<id>https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Turtle_Terminal_2500&amp;diff=36128&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Jnc: Avoid redir</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Avoid redir&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 15:49, 18 April 2025&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The '''Turtle Terminal 2500''' was a 16-bit [[minicomputer]] [[terminal]] designed by Marvin Minsky; it was initially just named the '2500' (for the target price). It had dual [[display]]s: one for text, and another for [[vector graphics]].&amp;#160; It was meant to run [[microcode]] to implement [[Logo]], but the size of the [[firmware]] [[RAM]] precluded that.&amp;#160; Danny Hillis wrote firmware to emulate a [[Datapoint 3300]] terminal, with additional commands for turtle graphics.&amp;#160; 2500's were typically attached to a [[host]] running Logo: the [[SITS]] [[PDP-11/45]], an [[LSI-11]] based machine called the [[General Turtle]] 3500, or [[Unix]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The '''Turtle Terminal 2500''' was a 16-bit [[minicomputer]] [[terminal]] designed by &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;Marvin Minsky&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/ins&gt;; it was initially just named the '2500' (for the target price). It had dual [[display]]s: one for text, and another for [[vector graphics]].&amp;#160; It was meant to run [[microcode]] to implement [[Logo]], but the size of the [[firmware]] [[RAM]] precluded that.&amp;#160; Danny Hillis wrote firmware to emulate a [[Datapoint 3300]] terminal, with additional commands for turtle graphics.&amp;#160; 2500's were typically attached to a [[host]] running Logo: the [[SITS]] [[PDP-11/45]], an [[LSI-11]] based machine called the [[General Turtle]] 3500, or [[&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;UNIX|&lt;/ins&gt;Unix]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{semi-stub}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{semi-stub}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category: Workstations]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[Category: Workstations]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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	<entry>
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		<title>Jnc: +cat; minor wording tweaks</title>
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				<updated>2022-09-22T11:37:56Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;+cat; minor wording tweaks&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 11:37, 22 September 2022&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 16-bit [[minicomputer]] designed by Marvin Minsky was initially just named the &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;''&lt;/del&gt;'2500'&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'' &lt;/del&gt;for the target price&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;, and &lt;/del&gt;had dual [[display]]s: one for text and another for [[vector graphics]].&amp;#160; It was meant to run [[microcode]] to implement [[Logo]], but the size of the [[firmware]] [[RAM]] precluded that.&amp;#160; Danny Hillis wrote firmware &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;for &lt;/del&gt;a Datapoint 3300 terminal &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;emulator &lt;/del&gt;with additional commands for turtle graphics.&amp;#160; 2500 &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;terminals &lt;/del&gt;were typically attached to a host running Logo: the [[SITS]] [[PDP-11/45]], an [[LSI-11]] based machine called the [[General Turtle&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;|3500&lt;/del&gt;]], or [[Unix]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'''Turtle Terminal 2500''' was a &lt;/ins&gt;16-bit [[minicomputer&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]] [[terminal&lt;/ins&gt;]] designed by Marvin Minsky&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;; it &lt;/ins&gt;was initially just named the '2500' &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;(&lt;/ins&gt;for the target price&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;). It &lt;/ins&gt;had dual [[display]]s: one for text&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;and another for [[vector graphics]].&amp;#160; It was meant to run [[microcode]] to implement [[Logo]], but the size of the [[firmware]] [[RAM]] precluded that.&amp;#160; Danny Hillis wrote firmware &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;to emulate &lt;/ins&gt;a &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;Datapoint 3300&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/ins&gt;terminal&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;, &lt;/ins&gt;with additional commands for turtle graphics.&amp;#160; 2500&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;'s &lt;/ins&gt;were typically attached to a &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;host&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]] &lt;/ins&gt;running Logo: the [[SITS]] [[PDP-11/45]], an [[LSI-11]] based machine called the [[General Turtle]] &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;3500&lt;/ins&gt;, or [[Unix]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Jnc</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Turtle_Terminal_2500&amp;diff=27707&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Larsbrinkhoff: $2500</title>
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				<updated>2022-09-22T11:34:39Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;$2500&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 11:34, 22 September 2022&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 16-bit [[minicomputer]] designed by Marvin Minsky was initially just named the '''2500''', and had dual [[display]]s: one for text and another for [[vector graphics]].&amp;#160; It was meant to run [[microcode]] to implement [[Logo]], but the size of the [[firmware]] [[RAM]] precluded that.&amp;#160; Danny Hillis wrote firmware for a Datapoint 3300 terminal emulator with additional commands for turtle graphics.&amp;#160; 2500 terminals were typically attached to a host running Logo: the [[SITS]] [[PDP-11/45]], an [[LSI-11]] based machine called the [[General Turtle|3500]], or [[Unix]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 16-bit [[minicomputer]] designed by Marvin Minsky was initially just named the '''2500''' &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;for the target price&lt;/ins&gt;, and had dual [[display]]s: one for text and another for [[vector graphics]].&amp;#160; It was meant to run [[microcode]] to implement [[Logo]], but the size of the [[firmware]] [[RAM]] precluded that.&amp;#160; Danny Hillis wrote firmware for a Datapoint 3300 terminal emulator with additional commands for turtle graphics.&amp;#160; 2500 terminals were typically attached to a host running Logo: the [[SITS]] [[PDP-11/45]], an [[LSI-11]] based machine called the [[General Turtle|3500]], or [[Unix]].&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{stub}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Larsbrinkhoff</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Turtle_Terminal_2500&amp;diff=27702&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Larsbrinkhoff: Stub.</title>
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				<updated>2022-09-22T10:13:51Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Stub.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;The 16-bit [[minicomputer]] designed by Marvin Minsky was initially just named the '''2500''', and had dual [[display]]s: one for text and another for [[vector graphics]].  It was meant to run [[microcode]] to implement [[Logo]], but the size of the [[firmware]] [[RAM]] precluded that.  Danny Hillis wrote firmware for a Datapoint 3300 terminal emulator with additional commands for turtle graphics.  2500 terminals were typically attached to a host running Logo: the [[SITS]] [[PDP-11/45]], an [[LSI-11]] based machine called the [[General Turtle|3500]], or [[Unix]].&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Larsbrinkhoff</name></author>	</entry>

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