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Jnc: /* BitSavers links */ new section

2026-10-02T10:23:43Z

BitSavers links: new section

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	That mechanism was not really designed to allow precise control of things like the sizes of all the boxes (although use of HTML attributes may allow a lot of that - e.g. for positioning text inside boxes), but I do not have a lot of experience in using them. E.g. the 'M9202' is not centered in its box; I may try and fix that. There are 'kludges' that fix some things; e.g. [https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jnc/VerticalTable&diff=34157&oldid=34155 this change] used a lot of 'nbsp' characters to increase the height of the third row boxes, so they more or less match the first and second rows. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:53, 15 April 2024 (CEST)		That mechanism was not really designed to allow precise control of things like the sizes of all the boxes (although use of HTML attributes may allow a lot of that - e.g. for positioning text inside boxes), but I do not have a lot of experience in using them. E.g. the 'M9202' is not centered in its box; I may try and fix that. There are 'kludges' that fix some things; e.g. [https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jnc/VerticalTable&diff=34157&oldid=34155 this change] used a lot of 'nbsp' characters to increase the height of the third row boxes, so they more or less match the first and second rows. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:53, 15 April 2024 (CEST)

			== BitSavers links ==

			The DUP11 files are still on BitSavers; they have just reorganized their directory tree a tiny bit. I would rather link to the copies on BitSavers, because BitSavers is hosted by the [[Computer History Museum]], which is a fairly substantial institution, and thus less likely to vanish with no warning, if someone dies, or something. VAXHaven is a perfectly nice site, but it appears to be a personal one, So, I reckon BitSavers is a more long-term reliable site to link to.

			And now I need to search for other BitSavers links that have gone bad... :-( [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 10:23, 2 October 2026 (UTC)

Jnc: /* Reproduction of that sample table you sent me */ Target moved

2024-04-16T08:31:44Z

Reproduction of that sample table you sent me: Target moved

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	== Reproduction of that sample table you sent me ==		== Reproduction of that sample table you sent me ==

	[[User:Jnc/~~VerticalTable~~\|Here]] is a sample I put together which more or less duplicates that [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/jpg/tmp/vtbl.png VAXC-11/750 backplane diagram] that you sent me. So with the 'VerticalTextUp' and 'VerticalTextDown' templates, we do, I think, now have all the tools one needs to replicate such diagrams. (Although I did have to move the slot numbers up to the top; the Mediawiki 'wikitable' mechanism depends on the 'header line' to tell it how many columns the table has. So I had to have ''something'' up there; I decided to use the slot numbers.)		[[User:Jnc/750Backplanes\|Here]] is a sample I put together which more or less duplicates that [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/jpg/tmp/vtbl.png VAXC-11/750 backplane diagram] that you sent me. So with the 'VerticalTextUp' and 'VerticalTextDown' templates, we do, I think, now have all the tools one needs to replicate such diagrams. (Although I did have to move the slot numbers up to the top; the Mediawiki 'wikitable' mechanism depends on the 'header line' to tell it how many columns the table has. So I had to have ''something'' up there; I decided to use the slot numbers.)

	That mechanism was not really designed to allow precise control of things like the sizes of all the boxes (although use of HTML attributes may allow a lot of that - e.g. for positioning text inside boxes), but I do not have a lot of experience in using them. E.g. the 'M9202' is not centered in its box; I may try and fix that. There are 'kludges' that fix some things; e.g. [https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jnc/VerticalTable&diff=34157&oldid=34155 this change] used a lot of 'nbsp' characters to increase the height of the third row boxes, so they more or less match the first and second rows. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:53, 15 April 2024 (CEST)		That mechanism was not really designed to allow precise control of things like the sizes of all the boxes (although use of HTML attributes may allow a lot of that - e.g. for positioning text inside boxes), but I do not have a lot of experience in using them. E.g. the 'M9202' is not centered in its box; I may try and fix that. There are 'kludges' that fix some things; e.g. [https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jnc/VerticalTable&diff=34157&oldid=34155 this change] used a lot of 'nbsp' characters to increase the height of the third row boxes, so they more or less match the first and second rows. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:53, 15 April 2024 (CEST)

Jnc: /* Reproduction of that sample table you sent me */ new section

2024-04-15T13:53:33Z

Reproduction of that sample table you sent me: new section

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	:Ha, you caught me – I forgot the introductory headline. Would a sentence like "I would like to quote the VT36 brochure (I couldn't word it better):" be OK? [[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]])		:Ha, you caught me – I forgot the introductory headline. Would a sentence like "I would like to quote the VT36 brochure (I couldn't word it better):" be OK? [[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]])

			== Reproduction of that sample table you sent me ==

			[[User:Jnc/VerticalTable\|Here]] is a sample I put together which more or less duplicates that [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/jpg/tmp/vtbl.png VAXC-11/750 backplane diagram] that you sent me. So with the 'VerticalTextUp' and 'VerticalTextDown' templates, we do, I think, now have all the tools one needs to replicate such diagrams. (Although I did have to move the slot numbers up to the top; the Mediawiki 'wikitable' mechanism depends on the 'header line' to tell it how many columns the table has. So I had to have ''something'' up there; I decided to use the slot numbers.)

			That mechanism was not really designed to allow precise control of things like the sizes of all the boxes (although use of HTML attributes may allow a lot of that - e.g. for positioning text inside boxes), but I do not have a lot of experience in using them. E.g. the 'M9202' is not centered in its box; I may try and fix that. There are 'kludges' that fix some things; e.g. [https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jnc/VerticalTable&diff=34157&oldid=34155 this change] used a lot of 'nbsp' characters to increase the height of the third row boxes, so they more or less match the first and second rows. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 15:53, 15 April 2024 (CEST)

Vaxorcist: /* Cut and pasting manuals */

2023-10-06T20:40:17Z

Cut and pasting manuals

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	This text is not anything I wrote; I am not sure if it is still applicable (and I do not know if HP cares about the copyright on DEC content anyway), but it is probably good advice. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 22:31, 3 October 2023 (CEST)		This text is not anything I wrote; I am not sure if it is still applicable (and I do not know if HP cares about the copyright on DEC content anyway), but it is probably good advice. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 22:31, 3 October 2023 (CEST)

			:Ha, you caught me – I forgot the introductory headline. Would a sentence like "I would like to quote the VT36 brochure (I couldn't word it better):" be OK? [[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]])

Jnc: /* Cut and pasting manuals */ new section

2023-10-03T20:31:42Z

Cut and pasting manuals: new section

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	Did you find a DEC document calling it 'RA82 Disk Drive'? Because I did find EK-ORA82-UG-001, which calls it "RA82 disk drive". (I don't use the name as given in the manual titles; book titles are often capitalized. So I look in the early text to see what they use. Both "About This Manual" and "1.1 General Information" use that.) Please, don't 'fix' things unless you have the time to do some research, and do it right. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 14:00, 17 August 2023 (CEST)		Did you find a DEC document calling it 'RA82 Disk Drive'? Because I did find EK-ORA82-UG-001, which calls it "RA82 disk drive". (I don't use the name as given in the manual titles; book titles are often capitalized. So I look in the early text to see what they use. Both "About This Manual" and "1.1 General Information" use that.) Please, don't 'fix' things unless you have the time to do some research, and do it right. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 14:00, 17 August 2023 (CEST)

			== Cut and pasting manuals ==

			I notice that much of the content in the new page [[VT36 Color Graphics Display Control System]] seems to be cut and pasted from the brochure. If you will notice, at the bottom of the 'edit' page, the page says:

			You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!

			This text is not anything I wrote; I am not sure if it is still applicable (and I do not know if HP cares about the copyright on DEC content anyway), but it is probably good advice. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 22:31, 3 October 2023 (CEST)

Jnc: What DEC called the RA82

2023-08-17T12:01:39Z

What DEC called the RA82

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 :: Thanks! I wonder why Web search engines don't know of them? They must have robots.txt files, or something. Alas, I didn't see any PDP-11 information there, though! :-) [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 13:45, 31 May 2022 (CEST)
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 The only thing uniform about my naming choices is that I ''uniformly'' use the name DEC used in their documentation. So if you see an 'RAxx Disk Drive' and an 'RAyy disk drive', go argue with DEC. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 00:47, 17 August 2023 (CEST)

Jnc: /* Uniform naming */ new section

2023-08-16T22:47:27Z

Uniform naming: new section

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	See [[Category talk:DEC VAX systems#Split up category?]] It is pretty big. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 21:20, 11 August 2023 (CEST)		See [[Category talk:DEC VAX systems#Split up category?]] It is pretty big. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 21:20, 11 August 2023 (CEST)

			== Uniform naming ==

			The only thing uniform about my naming choices is that I ''uniformly'' use the name DEC used in their documentation. So if you see an 'RAxx Disk Drive' and an 'RAyy disk drive', go argue with DEC. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 00:47, 17 August 2023 (CEST)

Jnc: /* Split up Category:DEC VAX systems? */ new section

2023-08-11T19:20:33Z

Split up Category:DEC VAX systems?: new section

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	:: All sounds good! 20:32, 16 June 2023 (CEST)		:: All sounds good! 20:32, 16 June 2023 (CEST)

			== Split up Category:DEC VAX systems? ==

			See [[Category talk:DEC VAX systems#Split up category?]] It is pretty big. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 21:20, 11 August 2023 (CEST)

Jnc: /* Template:Nav PDP-11 red links */ All sounds good

2023-06-16T18:32:56Z

Template:Nav PDP-11 red links: All sounds good

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	: You're right, red links in the nav box are not optimal, but at least there's a hint now that there are some more (special) PDP-11s. I'm in my first steps to VAX MACRO-32 right now, and at the moment I need all my available resources to cope with that. I will cone back later and start PDT pages. [[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]])		: You're right, red links in the nav box are not optimal, but at least there's a hint now that there are some more (special) PDP-11s. I'm in my first steps to VAX MACRO-32 right now, and at the moment I need all my available resources to cope with that. I will cone back later and start PDT pages. [[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]])

			:: All sounds good! 20:32, 16 June 2023 (CEST)

Vaxorcist at 18:01, 16 June 2023

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	Hey, when you added the PDT'S, etc, to [[:Template:Nav PDP-11]], you should write them at some point, so they don't show up as red links in the nav box! I don't care enough about them to do it myself, alas. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 21:05, 13 June 2023 (CEST)		Hey, when you added the PDT'S, etc, to [[:Template:Nav PDP-11]], you should write them at some point, so they don't show up as red links in the nav box! I don't care enough about them to do it myself, alas. [[User:Jnc\|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc\|talk]]) 21:05, 13 June 2023 (CEST)

			: You're right, red links in the nav box are not optimal, but at least there's a hint now that there are some more (special) PDP-11s. I'm in my first steps to VAX MACRO-32 right now, and at the moment I need all my available resources to cope with that. I will cone back later and start PDT pages. [[User:Vaxorcist\|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist\|talk]])