Category talk:DEC Serial Interfaces

Separate synchronous and asynchronous?

Should there be separate categories for synchronous and asynchronous serial interfaces? We already have Category:UNIBUS Serial Interfaces and Category:QBUS Serial Interfaces, but they both contain both synchronous and asynchronous serial interfaces. Jnc (talk) 11:58, 15 August 2022 (CEST)

Well, there are some controllers for busless systems like the MicroVax 2000 / VAXstation 2000 for example. As those don't fit into neither QBUS nor UNIBUS I created a new category. Yes, I thought of subcategories for synchronous / asynchronous serial interfaces (and there are interfaces that implement both, e.g. the DMF32), but did not implement it yet.

I think I should rather call it "DEC Busless Communication Controllers"... By the way: Is "busless" the correct word? Could you please rename it if "busless" is correct (or suggest another word)?

Maybe there should be a kind of "Super"-Category "DEC Communication Controllers" (my old category name) for all types - bus-based or busless? Vaxorcist (talk) 12:16, 15 August 2022 (CEST)

Yes; we clearly need a category the 'bus-less' ones can go into. Whether that is a separate category ('Non-bus Serial Interfaces'), or they just go into a parent 'Serial Interfaces' category, I do not know (yet).

My question about separate categories for synchronous and asynchronous interfaces was background for a more complete re-arrangement of the 'DEC Serial Interfaces' categories (although I did not make that clear - I was just waking up :-). It would be appropriate to have a parent category for them all - although I am not sure 'Communication Controllers' is it.

To me, network interfaces are 'communication controllers' also. Did DEC have an accepted term to cover them all? In the PDP-11 era they just called them 'Asynchronous Communications Interfaces' and 'Synchronous Communications Interfaces' (and included Ethernet in the latter :-).

So maybe something like 'DEC Serial Interfaces', with two different sets of sub-categories:

• DEC Asynchronous Serial Interfaces, DEC Synchronous Serial Interfaces
• UNIBUS Serial Interfaces, QBUS Serial Interfaces, etc

and all pages go into two categories. (The alternative is to have N^2 categories - 'QBUS Asynchronous Serial Interfaces', etc - and pages only go into one; but previous discussion on a similar question - see here - seemed to agree that it's better to have fewer tiny categories, and double-categorize articles.) Jnc (talk) 15:17, 15 August 2022 (CEST)

It is "Communication Controllers" or "Communication Options" in several DEC publications (from my personal VAX history) I know and "Ethernet" has got its own section under that as well as "Asynchronous Serial Interfaces" and "Synchronous Serial Interfaces". I don't really know whether the bus type (or non-bus) matters that much as to separate by that criterion. Synchronous and asynchronous interfaces are so different that I would not like to put those together.

I don't mind putting pages into multiple categories; on the contrary I found that helpful on several occasions - you (I) have it easier to find something you're looking for. Vaxorcist (talk) 19:05, 15 August 2022 (CEST)