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Re DR11C. I peeked at the driver in 2.11BSD and I think it said Unibus. But it was only a brief glance. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 10:11, 15 March 2018 (CET) | Re DR11C. I peeked at the driver in 2.11BSD and I think it said Unibus. But it was only a brief glance. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 10:11, 15 March 2018 (CET) | ||
| − | Hey, this mentions UNIBUS: | + | Hey, this mentions UNIBUS: |
| + | * https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/43bsd/usr/man/cat4/css.0.html | ||
| + | [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 10:19, 15 March 2018 (CET) | ||
: Huh? That page talks about the IMP11-A, the DEC CSS thing. | : Huh? That page talks about the IMP11-A, the DEC CSS thing. | ||
: Anyway, for the ''SRI'' thing, it was possibly both, actually. What it was was an SRI board that took the bit-stream from the IMP, doing the host-IMP harware protocol ('there's your bit', etc), and converted it to words, which it shipped over a parallel interface to a standard DEC DRV11 card. I'm pretty sure the QBUS DRV11 and UNIBUS DRV11-C had the same parallel port spec, so you could probably have plugged the SRI card into a DR11-C instead of a DRV11. Since the DR11-C/DRV11 are programmed I/O, they wouldn't have had the performance of the others, which were DMA, which is probably why UNIBUS machines tended to go with the DEC/ACC interfaces. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 15:55, 15 March 2018 (CET) | : Anyway, for the ''SRI'' thing, it was possibly both, actually. What it was was an SRI board that took the bit-stream from the IMP, doing the host-IMP harware protocol ('there's your bit', etc), and converted it to words, which it shipped over a parallel interface to a standard DEC DRV11 card. I'm pretty sure the QBUS DRV11 and UNIBUS DRV11-C had the same parallel port spec, so you could probably have plugged the SRI card into a DR11-C instead of a DRV11. Since the DR11-C/DRV11 are programmed I/O, they wouldn't have had the performance of the others, which were DMA, which is probably why UNIBUS machines tended to go with the DEC/ACC interfaces. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 15:55, 15 March 2018 (CET) | ||
| − | :: Sorry, wrong link. This is better: https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/211bsd/usr/man/cat4/sri.0.html | + | :: Sorry, wrong link. This is better: |
| − | :: Yes, I see now DR11-C is the name of a parallel interface. | + | ::* https://www.retro11.de/ouxr/211bsd/usr/man/cat4/sri.0.html |
| − | :: Here's a manual for the IMP interface: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a037212.pdf [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 08:36, 16 March 2018 (CET) | + | :: Yes, I see now DR11-C is the name of a parallel interface. The BSD drivers use the Unibus device to talk to the IMP interface. |
| + | :: Here's a manual for the IMP interface: | ||
| + | ::* http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a037212.pdf | ||
| + | :: [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 08:36, 16 March 2018 (CET) | ||
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| + | : Right. And here is the 2.11 driver: | ||
| + | :* http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2.11BSD/sys/pdpif/if_sri.h | ||
| + | :* http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=2.11BSD/sys/pdpif/if_sri.c | ||
| + | : Looking at the driver, I'm not sure I understand how it works; it looks like it might loop in the interrupt handler, reading the entire packet? Eh, not important. | ||
| + | : Somewhere I have [[MOS operating system]] drivers for it. | ||
| + | : Also my memory was a bit off - it was byte at a time, not word at a time. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 15:14, 16 March 2018 (CET) | ||
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DR11C
Re DR11C. I peeked at the driver in 2.11BSD and I think it said Unibus. But it was only a brief glance. Larsbrinkhoff (talk) 10:11, 15 March 2018 (CET)
Hey, this mentions UNIBUS:
Larsbrinkhoff (talk) 10:19, 15 March 2018 (CET)
- Huh? That page talks about the IMP11-A, the DEC CSS thing.
- Anyway, for the SRI thing, it was possibly both, actually. What it was was an SRI board that took the bit-stream from the IMP, doing the host-IMP harware protocol ('there's your bit', etc), and converted it to words, which it shipped over a parallel interface to a standard DEC DRV11 card. I'm pretty sure the QBUS DRV11 and UNIBUS DRV11-C had the same parallel port spec, so you could probably have plugged the SRI card into a DR11-C instead of a DRV11. Since the DR11-C/DRV11 are programmed I/O, they wouldn't have had the performance of the others, which were DMA, which is probably why UNIBUS machines tended to go with the DEC/ACC interfaces. Jnc (talk) 15:55, 15 March 2018 (CET)
- Sorry, wrong link. This is better:
- Yes, I see now DR11-C is the name of a parallel interface. The BSD drivers use the Unibus device to talk to the IMP interface.
- Here's a manual for the IMP interface:
- Larsbrinkhoff (talk) 08:36, 16 March 2018 (CET)
- Right. And here is the 2.11 driver:
- Looking at the driver, I'm not sure I understand how it works; it looks like it might loop in the interrupt handler, reading the entire packet? Eh, not important.
- Somewhere I have MOS operating system drivers for it.
- Also my memory was a bit off - it was byte at a time, not word at a time. Jnc (talk) 15:14, 16 March 2018 (CET)
