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The page currently says "the original was K&R C". That's not true, as there were language revisions before the K&R book published in 1978. And the page even links to [[Typesetter C]]. I suggest making a more detailed list of C dialects, to the extent some milestones can be found in a continuum. I'll make a stab at it. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 08:44, 19 August 2021 (CEST) | The page currently says "the original was K&R C". That's not true, as there were language revisions before the K&R book published in 1978. And the page even links to [[Typesetter C]]. I suggest making a more detailed list of C dialects, to the extent some milestones can be found in a continuum. I'll make a stab at it. [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 08:44, 19 August 2021 (CEST) | ||
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| + | : Look good. If I get a chance, I'll add more. Ritchie did a paper ("The Development of the C Language") which has a lot of the early history; I'll add a link to that. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 16:36, 19 August 2021 (CEST) | ||
| + | : Oh, I see, there was already kind of a link to it, buried in the text; but the link was broken. I have fixed it. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 17:11, 19 August 2021 (CEST) | ||
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| + | I have more questions about dialects/development: | ||
| + | # Primeval has no '''struct''', but Typesetter does. When was '''struct''' introduced? | ||
| + | # The description of [[Typesetter C]] seems to me rather close to K&R; what are the differences? | ||
| + | [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 07:47, 11 July 2025 (CEST) | ||
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| + | : According to [https://www.nokia.com/bell-labs/about/dennis-m-ritchie/chist.html ''The Development of the C Language''], 'struct' appeared very shortly after the addition of types - i.e. just after the 'NB' stage (which was where types first appeared, in a primitive form). Indeed, 'struct' and more complex types ('pointer to X', etc) marked the transition from NB to C. | ||
| + | : Alas, I'm not sure what the differences are between 'Typesetter C' and K&R. I'd have to read through K&R carefully and note differences, which I don't have the time and energy for at the moment, alas! (I'm busy with [[CCC]] article work!) I see from the timeline in the article that 'Typesetter C' was just before K&R (especially considering the writing/publishing delay on the latter), so probably not very much. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 15:42, 19 July 2025 (CEST) | ||
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Page name
Should we move this to C (language), just to make it a bit more explicit? If we leave a redirect at C, we can look for articles which link to it, and fix them to come directly here. Jnc (talk) 14:59, 7 August 2017 (CEST)
- I decided the ()'s are tacky, and moved it to C programming language. Jnc (talk) 15:47, 16 March 2018 (CET)
Dialects
The page currently says "the original was K&R C". That's not true, as there were language revisions before the K&R book published in 1978. And the page even links to Typesetter C. I suggest making a more detailed list of C dialects, to the extent some milestones can be found in a continuum. I'll make a stab at it. Larsbrinkhoff (talk) 08:44, 19 August 2021 (CEST)
- Look good. If I get a chance, I'll add more. Ritchie did a paper ("The Development of the C Language") which has a lot of the early history; I'll add a link to that. Jnc (talk) 16:36, 19 August 2021 (CEST)
- Oh, I see, there was already kind of a link to it, buried in the text; but the link was broken. I have fixed it. Jnc (talk) 17:11, 19 August 2021 (CEST)
I have more questions about dialects/development:
- Primeval has no struct, but Typesetter does. When was struct introduced?
- The description of Typesetter C seems to me rather close to K&R; what are the differences?
Larsbrinkhoff (talk) 07:47, 11 July 2025 (CEST)
- According to The Development of the C Language, 'struct' appeared very shortly after the addition of types - i.e. just after the 'NB' stage (which was where types first appeared, in a primitive form). Indeed, 'struct' and more complex types ('pointer to X', etc) marked the transition from NB to C.
- Alas, I'm not sure what the differences are between 'Typesetter C' and K&R. I'd have to read through K&R carefully and note differences, which I don't have the time and energy for at the moment, alas! (I'm busy with CCC article work!) I see from the timeline in the article that 'Typesetter C' was just before K&R (especially considering the writing/publishing delay on the latter), so probably not very much. Jnc (talk) 15:42, 19 July 2025 (CEST)
