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I wonder why someone at ''Stanford'' invented it? They only had the one machine (I looked at an early ARPANET host table, and there was only one machine on the Stanford IMP, SAIL) - so no real ''internal'' need. (MIT, I can see the need; with AI, DM and ML.) | I wonder why someone at ''Stanford'' invented it? They only had the one machine (I looked at an early ARPANET host table, and there was only one machine on the Stanford IMP, SAIL) - so no real ''internal'' need. (MIT, I can see the need; with AI, DM and ML.) | ||
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| + | : It started as a local tool to see logged-in users, ''their physical location'', and the whereabouts of ''free terminals''. The earliest version on record I find is this one: https://www.saildart.org/FINGER.SAI[S,LES]1 | ||
| + | : I guess it was a short leap to provide this data over the network, although that was years later. '''SAIL didn't have a server at first.''' As of 1975: "At this writing, only the following sites respond to a network FINGER: all MIT ITS sites (ai, mc, ml, dm), sri-kl, sri-ka, and office-1." | ||
| + | : [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 18:48, 9 August 2023 (CEST) | ||
Speaking of ARPANET host tables, I now there are a few online, but a Web search couldn't find them (for the above). Any you know of, could we link to? Probably from [[ARPANET]] for the moment; I don't see any need for an ARPANET-host-table-specific at the moment. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 18:20, 9 August 2023 (CEST) | Speaking of ARPANET host tables, I now there are a few online, but a Web search couldn't find them (for the above). Any you know of, could we link to? Probably from [[ARPANET]] for the moment; I don't see any need for an ARPANET-host-table-specific at the moment. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 18:20, 9 August 2023 (CEST) | ||
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| + | : There are surprisingly few host tables from the NCP era! My go-to resource is here: https://github.com/ttkzw/hosts.txt | ||
| + | : There are more in the MIT and SAIL archives, but I gather they may not be official BBN control center files. | ||
| + | : [[User:Larsbrinkhoff|Larsbrinkhoff]] ([[User talk:Larsbrinkhoff|talk]]) 18:48, 9 August 2023 (CEST) | ||
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Why Stanford?
I wonder why someone at Stanford invented it? They only had the one machine (I looked at an early ARPANET host table, and there was only one machine on the Stanford IMP, SAIL) - so no real internal need. (MIT, I can see the need; with AI, DM and ML.)
- It started as a local tool to see logged-in users, their physical location, and the whereabouts of free terminals. The earliest version on record I find is this one: https://www.saildart.org/FINGER.SAI[S,LES]1
- I guess it was a short leap to provide this data over the network, although that was years later. SAIL didn't have a server at first. As of 1975: "At this writing, only the following sites respond to a network FINGER: all MIT ITS sites (ai, mc, ml, dm), sri-kl, sri-ka, and office-1."
- Larsbrinkhoff (talk) 18:48, 9 August 2023 (CEST)
Speaking of ARPANET host tables, I now there are a few online, but a Web search couldn't find them (for the above). Any you know of, could we link to? Probably from ARPANET for the moment; I don't see any need for an ARPANET-host-table-specific at the moment. Jnc (talk) 18:20, 9 August 2023 (CEST)
- There are surprisingly few host tables from the NCP era! My go-to resource is here: https://github.com/ttkzw/hosts.txt
- There are more in the MIT and SAIL archives, but I gather they may not be official BBN control center files.
- Larsbrinkhoff (talk) 18:48, 9 August 2023 (CEST)
