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:::: I will have a go at that. Looking at all the images you uploaded, it seems from [[:File:DSSI Connectors.png]] that there are two styles of connectors: the one on the right in that diagram looks like an IDC connector, with round pins; the one of the left, there, has flat pins. The second type is what [[:File:HSD10 front.jpg]] has, yes? | :::: I will have a go at that. Looking at all the images you uploaded, it seems from [[:File:DSSI Connectors.png]] that there are two styles of connectors: the one on the right in that diagram looks like an IDC connector, with round pins; the one of the left, there, has flat pins. The second type is what [[:File:HSD10 front.jpg]] has, yes? | ||
:::: Do you have any of the long cables? [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/dsa/dssi/EK-RF72D-UG-008_RF_Series_Integrated_Storage_Element_Users_Guide_Apr93.pdf EK-RF72D-UG-008] says "The DSSI bus is a 50-conductor cable. Inside an enclosure, the bus may be a flat ribbon cable or a round bundle of twisted pairs. Between enclosures, the bus is a shielded round cable approximately ½-inch in diameter." It is the latter I would like to get an image of - particularly the connectors. I would assume there are ''three'' different kinds of DSSI round cables - at least, in theory: round-pin (above) to round-pin, flat-pin (above) to flat-pin, and round-pin to flat-pin (for when one has to convert). [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 17:25, 4 September 2023 (CEST) | :::: Do you have any of the long cables? [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/dsa/dssi/EK-RF72D-UG-008_RF_Series_Integrated_Storage_Element_Users_Guide_Apr93.pdf EK-RF72D-UG-008] says "The DSSI bus is a 50-conductor cable. Inside an enclosure, the bus may be a flat ribbon cable or a round bundle of twisted pairs. Between enclosures, the bus is a shielded round cable approximately ½-inch in diameter." It is the latter I would like to get an image of - particularly the connectors. I would assume there are ''three'' different kinds of DSSI round cables - at least, in theory: round-pin (above) to round-pin, flat-pin (above) to flat-pin, and round-pin to flat-pin (for when one has to convert). [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 17:25, 4 September 2023 (CEST) | ||
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+ | ::::: [[:File:DSSI_PS_Connector_female_(Cable).jpg]] is the male PS connector end of a round cable with a '''Micro-Ribbon''' (MR) connector at the other end. Yes, there are three kinds of exterior DSSI cables as you guessed. I can upload a picture of the MR connector at the other end. I run a DSSI-based dual [[MicroVAX 3300]] [[VAXcluster]] for fun. It uses a [[HSD10 DSSI-to-SCSI Bus Adapter]] to connect both VAXen to a couple of common SCSI disks. The HSD10 has got MR connectors, the MicroVAXen use '''Pin-Socket''' (PS) ones, so I have got two round DSSI cables that are PS-to-MR. I probably can supply the DEC order numbers for the three cable types. [[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) 18:38, 4 September 2023 (CEST) |
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Category
We do not (yet) have a Category:DEC Mass Storage (although we do have Category:DEC Storage Controllers, as a sub-category of Category:DEC Peripherals), which is why this is in Category:DEC Peripherals. If I were energetic, I would set such a category up (and move a few other things into it, like MSCP). Jnc (talk) 02:12, 17 July 2022 (CEST)
Connector image needed
Anyone have anything with DSSI connectors (on either a cable, or a drive, etc) they can take some pictures of? I have some SDI cables, etc, so I will do the SDI ones. Jnc (talk) 16:53, 1 September 2023 (CEST)
- My picture File:HSD10 front.jpg shows the HSD10 DSSI-to-SCSI Bus Adapter with the typical (a little fragile) DSSI connectors. I could provide pictures of a DSSI cable, a DSSI terminator, and the (different) connector of a DSSI drive as well - what do you want? Vaxorcist (talk) 18:03, 1 September 2023 (CEST)
- I'll take a photo of a DSSI cable & connector tomorrow. You can see a drive DSSI conector in File:RF30_PCB_54-18247.jpg on the right side; looks like SCSI or the like. I'll take a frontal photo of that one as well. There might have been other drive DSSI conectors with newer disk drives - I'll have a look for that. Vaxorcist (talk) 20:10, 1 September 2023 (CEST)
- Sorry I am slow to reply; there is too much going on here!
- When you write of the "connector .. on the right side", do you mean the blue plastic IDC connector? (Well, it looks like an IDC connector, from what I can see of it.) Jnc (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2023 (CEST)
- I will have a go at that. Looking at all the images you uploaded, it seems from File:DSSI Connectors.png that there are two styles of connectors: the one on the right in that diagram looks like an IDC connector, with round pins; the one of the left, there, has flat pins. The second type is what File:HSD10 front.jpg has, yes?
- Do you have any of the long cables? EK-RF72D-UG-008 says "The DSSI bus is a 50-conductor cable. Inside an enclosure, the bus may be a flat ribbon cable or a round bundle of twisted pairs. Between enclosures, the bus is a shielded round cable approximately ½-inch in diameter." It is the latter I would like to get an image of - particularly the connectors. I would assume there are three different kinds of DSSI round cables - at least, in theory: round-pin (above) to round-pin, flat-pin (above) to flat-pin, and round-pin to flat-pin (for when one has to convert). Jnc (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2023 (CEST)
- File:DSSI_PS_Connector_female_(Cable).jpg is the male PS connector end of a round cable with a Micro-Ribbon (MR) connector at the other end. Yes, there are three kinds of exterior DSSI cables as you guessed. I can upload a picture of the MR connector at the other end. I run a DSSI-based dual MicroVAX 3300 VAXcluster for fun. It uses a HSD10 DSSI-to-SCSI Bus Adapter to connect both VAXen to a couple of common SCSI disks. The HSD10 has got MR connectors, the MicroVAXen use Pin-Socket (PS) ones, so I have got two round DSSI cables that are PS-to-MR. I probably can supply the DEC order numbers for the three cable types. Vaxorcist (talk) 18:38, 4 September 2023 (CEST)