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:: Thanks! I wonder why Web search engines don't know of them? They must have robots.txt files, or something. Alas, I didn't see any PDP-11 information there, though! :-) [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 13:45, 31 May 2022 (CEST) | :: Thanks! I wonder why Web search engines don't know of them? They must have robots.txt files, or something. Alas, I didn't see any PDP-11 information there, though! :-) [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 13:45, 31 May 2022 (CEST) | ||
| − | == | + | == Template:Nav PDP-11 red links == |
| − | + | Hey, when you added the PDT'S, etc, to [[:Template:Nav PDP-11]], you should write them at some point, so they don't show up as red links in the nav box! I don't care enough about them to do it myself, alas. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 21:05, 13 June 2023 (CEST) | |
| − | + | : You're right, red links in the nav box are not optimal, but at least there's a hint now that there are some more (special) PDP-11s. I'm in my first steps to VAX MACRO-32 right now, and at the moment I need all my available resources to cope with that. I will cone back later and start PDT pages. [[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) | |
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| − | + | :: All sounds good! 20:32, 16 June 2023 (CEST) | |
| − | + | == Split up Category:DEC VAX systems? == | |
| − | + | See [[Category talk:DEC VAX systems#Split up category?]] It is pretty big. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 21:20, 11 August 2023 (CEST) | |
| − | + | == Uniform naming == | |
| − | + | The only thing uniform about my naming choices is that I ''uniformly'' use the name DEC used in their documentation. So if you see an 'RAxx Disk Drive' and an 'RAyy disk drive', go argue with DEC. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 00:47, 17 August 2023 (CEST) | |
| − | + | Did you find a DEC document calling it 'RA82 Disk Drive'? Because I did find EK-ORA82-UG-001, which calls it "RA82 disk drive". (I don't use the name as given in the manual titles; book titles are often capitalized. So I look in the early text to see what they use. Both "About This Manual" and "1.1 General Information" use that.) Please, don't 'fix' things unless you have the time to do some research, and do it right. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 14:00, 17 August 2023 (CEST) | |
| − | + | == Cut and pasting manuals == | |
| − | + | I notice that much of the content in the new page [[VT36 Color Graphics Display Control System]] seems to be cut and pasted from the brochure. If you will notice, at the bottom of the 'edit' page, the page says: | |
| − | + | You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission! | |
| − | ::: | + | This text is not anything I wrote; I am not sure if it is still applicable (and I do not know if HP cares about the copyright on DEC content anyway), but it is probably good advice. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 22:31, 3 October 2023 (CEST) |
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| + | :Ha, you caught me – I forgot the introductory headline. Would a sentence like "I would like to quote the VT36 brochure (I couldn't word it better):" be OK? [[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) | ||
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| + | == Reproduction of that sample table you sent me == | ||
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| + | [[User:Jnc/750Backplanes|Here]] is a sample I put together which more or less duplicates that [http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/jpg/tmp/vtbl.png VAXC-11/750 backplane diagram] that you sent me. So with the 'VerticalTextUp' and 'VerticalTextDown' templates, we do, I think, now have all the tools one needs to replicate such diagrams. (Although I did have to move the slot numbers up to the top; the Mediawiki 'wikitable' mechanism depends on the 'header line' to tell it how many columns the table has. So I had to have ''something'' up there; I decided to use the slot numbers.) | ||
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| + | That mechanism was not really designed to allow precise control of things like the sizes of all the boxes (although use of HTML attributes may allow a lot of that - e.g. for positioning text inside boxes), but I do not have a lot of experience in using them. E.g. the 'M9202' is not centered in its box; I may try and fix that. There are 'kludges' that fix some things; e.g. [https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=User:Jnc/VerticalTable&diff=34157&oldid=34155 this change] used a lot of 'nbsp' characters to increase the height of the third row boxes, so they more or less match the first and second rows. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 15:53, 15 April 2024 (CEST) | ||
Latest revision as of 10:31, 16 April 2024
Contents
Duplicate links
The Wikipedia Manual of Style's guidance on 'Duplicate and repeat links' seems sound (good) to me: "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers". Not that it is a real problem to have a repeated link in a page! Jnc (talk) 17:49, 22 May 2022 (CEST)
750 option manuals
Do you have documentation for the CI750/DR750? I looked, but was unable to find anything on them (even the 1986 'VAX Hardware Handbook Volume 1') I did find mention of the second DW750 (I forget where I saw it - probably in the KA750 TD). Jnc (talk) 19:12, 29 May 2022 (CEST)
- That was not a 'push' to add content, but a real query. :-) RH750 Massbus Adapter mentions them, but I was unable to find any DEC documentation that mentions them. (Oh, I see BitSavers has the CI750 FMPS.) Jnc (talk) 23:38, 29 May 2022 (CEST)
750 Revision Control document
I am curious; where did the VAX-11/750 & VAX-11/751 Revision Control document come from? (It is a very interesting document, by the way; thank you for putting it online.) It does not seem to be online anywhere else. Did you scan/OCR a physical document that you have? Or did some VMS or diagnostics release include it? Jnc (talk) 00:29, 31 May 2022 (CEST)
Hey, when you added the PDT'S, etc, to Template:Nav PDP-11, you should write them at some point, so they don't show up as red links in the nav box! I don't care enough about them to do it myself, alas. Jnc (talk) 21:05, 13 June 2023 (CEST)
- You're right, red links in the nav box are not optimal, but at least there's a hint now that there are some more (special) PDP-11s. I'm in my first steps to VAX MACRO-32 right now, and at the moment I need all my available resources to cope with that. I will cone back later and start PDT pages. Vaxorcist (talk)
- All sounds good! 20:32, 16 June 2023 (CEST)
Split up Category:DEC VAX systems?
See Category talk:DEC VAX systems#Split up category? It is pretty big. Jnc (talk) 21:20, 11 August 2023 (CEST)
Uniform naming
The only thing uniform about my naming choices is that I uniformly use the name DEC used in their documentation. So if you see an 'RAxx Disk Drive' and an 'RAyy disk drive', go argue with DEC. Jnc (talk) 00:47, 17 August 2023 (CEST)
Did you find a DEC document calling it 'RA82 Disk Drive'? Because I did find EK-ORA82-UG-001, which calls it "RA82 disk drive". (I don't use the name as given in the manual titles; book titles are often capitalized. So I look in the early text to see what they use. Both "About This Manual" and "1.1 General Information" use that.) Please, don't 'fix' things unless you have the time to do some research, and do it right. Jnc (talk) 14:00, 17 August 2023 (CEST)
Cut and pasting manuals
I notice that much of the content in the new page VT36 Color Graphics Display Control System seems to be cut and pasted from the brochure. If you will notice, at the bottom of the 'edit' page, the page says:
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!
This text is not anything I wrote; I am not sure if it is still applicable (and I do not know if HP cares about the copyright on DEC content anyway), but it is probably good advice. Jnc (talk) 22:31, 3 October 2023 (CEST)
- Ha, you caught me – I forgot the introductory headline. Would a sentence like "I would like to quote the VT36 brochure (I couldn't word it better):" be OK? Vaxorcist (talk)
Reproduction of that sample table you sent me
Here is a sample I put together which more or less duplicates that VAXC-11/750 backplane diagram that you sent me. So with the 'VerticalTextUp' and 'VerticalTextDown' templates, we do, I think, now have all the tools one needs to replicate such diagrams. (Although I did have to move the slot numbers up to the top; the Mediawiki 'wikitable' mechanism depends on the 'header line' to tell it how many columns the table has. So I had to have something up there; I decided to use the slot numbers.)
That mechanism was not really designed to allow precise control of things like the sizes of all the boxes (although use of HTML attributes may allow a lot of that - e.g. for positioning text inside boxes), but I do not have a lot of experience in using them. E.g. the 'M9202' is not centered in its box; I may try and fix that. There are 'kludges' that fix some things; e.g. this change used a lot of 'nbsp' characters to increase the height of the third row boxes, so they more or less match the first and second rows. Jnc (talk) 15:53, 15 April 2024 (CEST)
