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(Duplication of "VAX" categories?)
 
(I don't think we have too many VAX categories, but too few)
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== Duplication of "VAX" categories? ==
 
== Duplication of "VAX" categories? ==
There are two categories about VAX computers:
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* DEC VAX systems
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There are two categories about VAX computer
* VAXen
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* [[:Category: DEC VAX systems]]
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* [[:Category: VAXen]]
  
 
They overlap a great deal, and I find it very irritating and disturbing.
 
They overlap a great deal, and I find it very irritating and disturbing.
  
 
Could they possibly be merged into one category? [[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) 14:02, 22 May 2023 (CEST)
 
Could they possibly be merged into one category? [[User:Vaxorcist|Vaxorcist]] ([[User talk:Vaxorcist|talk]]) 14:02, 22 May 2023 (CEST)
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: I am not in favor of this; the ''ideas'' of the two do not overlap (below). (If individual pages overlap, the first is a sub-category of the second, so no pages should be in both; if you find one in both, delete one tag.)
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: The concept, which I think is a good one, is that ''specific machines'' (e.g. [[VAX-11/780]]) go in [[:Category: DEC VAX systems]]; [[:Category: VAXen]] is the most general VAX category, and includes both i) sub-categories which wouldn't fit in the machine-specific category (e.g. [[:Category:VAX Operating Systems]], [[:Category:VAX Peripherals]]), as well as ii) VAX-specific pages which don't fit in the machine-specific category (e.g. [[VAXcluster]], [[VUP]]).
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: [[:Category: DEC VAX systems]] might not be the best name, but changing it would be a nightmare; we'd have to edit every page in it; so I think we'll probably have to live with it. (The name [https://gunkies.org/w/index.php?title=Template:InfoboxVAX-Data&action=history pre-dates me]; also, '''DEC'' VAX systems' is good because there are some non-DEC clones, e.g. [[CM 1700]].) Same thing for [[:Category: VAXen]]; if I were doing it, and starting from scratch, it would be [[:Category: VAX]], but it too pre-dates me.
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: Having said that, the VAX categories are not perfect, and can possibly/probably use some cleanup. In addition to individual pages which might be in the wrong category, looking at [[:Category: VAXen]], I can see several other potential new sub-categories (in a structure which parallels that elsewhere in the DEC category hierarchy): [[:Category:VAX Buses]] (most are currently in [[:Category:DEC Buses]], along with [[:Category: VAXen]]; and 'series' pages ([[VAX 10000 series]], [[VAX 4000 series]], etc) - we could set up a [[:Category: VAX Series]] for them.
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: One either idea; if [[:Category: DEC VAX systems]] has too many pages in it, we could split it up into [[:Category: VAX workstations]], etc.
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: In short, I don't think we have ''too many'' VAX categories, but ''too few''. But I am interested to hear what you think. [[User:Jnc|Jnc]] ([[User talk:Jnc|talk]]) 15:58, 22 May 2023 (CEST)

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Duplication of "VAX" categories?

There are two categories about VAX computer

They overlap a great deal, and I find it very irritating and disturbing.

Could they possibly be merged into one category? Vaxorcist (talk) 14:02, 22 May 2023 (CEST)

I am not in favor of this; the ideas of the two do not overlap (below). (If individual pages overlap, the first is a sub-category of the second, so no pages should be in both; if you find one in both, delete one tag.)
The concept, which I think is a good one, is that specific machines (e.g. VAX-11/780) go in Category: DEC VAX systems; Category: VAXen is the most general VAX category, and includes both i) sub-categories which wouldn't fit in the machine-specific category (e.g. Category:VAX Operating Systems, Category:VAX Peripherals), as well as ii) VAX-specific pages which don't fit in the machine-specific category (e.g. VAXcluster, VUP).
Category: DEC VAX systems might not be the best name, but changing it would be a nightmare; we'd have to edit every page in it; so I think we'll probably have to live with it. (The name pre-dates me; also, 'DEC VAX systems' is good because there are some non-DEC clones, e.g. CM 1700.) Same thing for Category: VAXen; if I were doing it, and starting from scratch, it would be Category: VAX, but it too pre-dates me.
Having said that, the VAX categories are not perfect, and can possibly/probably use some cleanup. In addition to individual pages which might be in the wrong category, looking at Category: VAXen, I can see several other potential new sub-categories (in a structure which parallels that elsewhere in the DEC category hierarchy): Category:VAX Buses (most are currently in Category:DEC Buses, along with Category: VAXen; and 'series' pages (VAX 10000 series, VAX 4000 series, etc) - we could set up a Category: VAX Series for them.
One either idea; if Category: DEC VAX systems has too many pages in it, we could split it up into Category: VAX workstations, etc.
In short, I don't think we have too many VAX categories, but too few. But I am interested to hear what you think. Jnc (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2023 (CEST)