Sigs on Talk: pages
We generally try and follow the Wikipedia style of signing posts on Talk: pages (so that people reading them will know straight off, without having to look in the history, who made comments, and when). There's even special Wiki syntax to do this easily; just add ~~~~ to the end of your post, and it will be automagically transformed in this sig, with the user and time. Jnc (talk) 13:21, 11 March 2019 (CET)
- Hmm, something else is going on. 'ForOldHack (talk) 01:41, 12 March 2019 (CET)' gives me date and time, and ~~~~ gives me 4 tildies.
- Oh, now I understand to escape the wiki process and get tildies, use ~~~~, but to get the sig use ForOldHack (talk) 01:42, 12 March 2019 (CET)
- Please don't forget; I can add the sig manually, but it's easier for you. Thanks! Jnc (talk) 14:52, 22 March 2019 (CET)
The captions in info boxes are specified in the template, as are the argument names; trying to change either in the invocation has no effect.
If you want to change the 'Year introduced' caption, I'd be OK with that, but just to 'Introduced' I think might be potentially confusing without something to indicate that it's a temporal meaning - e.g. 'Date introduced', or something. Jnc (talk) 12:04, 7 April 2019 (CEST)
- Introduced sounds like marketing speak, I would prefer Release dates, since that would cover both people receiving mag tapes, and downloading comparable source. I got Redhat 5.0 on the day of release, and was able to torrent it, and was able to install it quickly. I went to a user group meeting, and for the cost of $5, got 1) a backup CD, 2) a great Tshirt, 3) a great how-to manual, and 4) some nifty stickers. Needless to say, from that day forward, I saw the lack of value in Microsoft Products. ForOldHack (talk) 11:52, 12 April 2019 (CEST)
- OK, 'Date released' would work in Template:Infobox Software, Template:Infobox OS, and Template:Infobox App. I'll go ahead and make that change (although it will only be in the caption, not in the argument name - if I change that, I'd have to change every article that calls those templates).
- Not sure that to do about Template:Infobox Machine, etc - would 'Date introduced' work there? Jnc (talk) 16:20, 16 April 2019 (CEST)
- Back to the Temporal part, We want a label to indicate its first start of general use, so that a corresponding date tag, could map to what hardware it would run on, i.e. XENIX would have a 1985 release date, and the current hardware was XTs, Turbo XTs, ATs and a few clones,
- Verses ATT SYS V, I guess I see through the eyes of my first C teacher, Barry Kercheval, who liked Sun workstations, because of their OS, and their compiler. The MS-DOS C compilers at the time were hacks, Microsoft C was bad, Aztek C was a bit better, Manx C would make code easy to port from Amiga to PC, and we would get constant diffrences between those and XENIX, and the other boxes we would remote into to look at their compilers. ForOldHack (talk) 11:52, 12 April 2019 (CEST)
- For RT-11, A list of boxes that it could run on, and the corresponding CPUs and memory cards that would support it, would be useful. i.e. It would not run on this hardware, but certainly would run on the current hardware of the day. ForOldHack (talk) 11:52, 12 April 2019 (CEST)
We generally like to give the title of our external links, using the syntax '[URL title]', so instead of:
one sees this:
Much nicer for our readers! The title is formally given inside <title> tags in the HTML of the page, and displayed by the browser (often in the window title bar, but exactly how will depend on the browser and OS).
PS: You shouldn't stick a sig in additions to content pages (where it intrudes), you only need to do it on Talk: pages. The reasoning (it dates to a very early stage on Wikipedia, before even I started there) seems to be that if one wants to know where something in a content page comes from, one looks at the History of that page; on Talk: pages (especially if one is reading one later - see for example the discussion at Help talk:Introduction to Categories), one can easily see who posted a given item directly, without needing to grub around in the history. Jnc (talk) 15:25, 7 April 2019 (CEST)
- Very sorry, I had forgot, and even forgot to look it up. I am so amazed by the tiny bits I have found, I only used some of those machines a few times, they were apprently very popular because they were so fantastic.
- Ill follow this convention on. ForOldHack (talk) 04:57, 8 April 2019 (CET)
- When a user sees this: [System 286 release notes] it had me choking with laughter. ForOldHack (talk) 10:59, 12 April 2019 (CET)
- Technically, you 'blanked' the page; it (and its history) are still there. It is actually possible to remove a page totally, but only admins have that ability. Please let me know if you ever want a page (e.g. that one) nuked. Jnc (talk) 14:43, 13 April 2019 (CEST)
- Yes, I have grabbed the information off that page, it can go into the great bit bucket (trash/recycler/ /dev/null)
- How many euphemisms can we come up with for deleting a file/page? ForOldHack (talk) 19:43, 17 April 2019 (CEST)
No, I copied the information here. It was an experiment and it did not come out as planned. ( silent back pages ). Good to know we can bring back pages if we make mistakes.
But the more I read here about DEC/PDP/VAX, The more I agree with your respect for its elegance. I wish I had had more time with the hardware, and could have worked with it the way I have worked with PCs.
Got a Mac Performa 630CD running today, just by cleaning it thoroughly, and giving it time to ... coalesce.
It seems as though this Wiki is coming along with the company of a few devoted fans. Great work.
This is an exercise to create a text based visualization tool to categorize memory boards and their resultant available operating systems:
Chips: Motherboard OS
1x16 DRAM IBM PC V1 DOS 1.0 ( August 1981 ) DOS 1.1 ( August 1981 ) CPM-86 UCSD-p
Kirk CD set!
You can find them on his site here for sale. Its a KLUNKY ordering thing, straight out of 1993, but I got my CD/DVD set in Hong Kong no worries! Totally worth it!
- Thanks, All I needed was the correct search terms. Found them.
- The two talks I went to were the fixing the C port, and getting VM running on the VAX, both were fantastic lectures
- on UNIX history. It was nice that Kirk was so accessible, vs meeting Bill Joy at USENIX, and him walking off because he was busy.
Links: ( not on the article, so best of luck finding them.. :)